tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23708015.post9133907094619225091..comments2022-12-22T10:22:36.522-08:00Comments on Southern Grits & Sovereign Grace: Calvinist Pastors need to "Come Clean"Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09315967884033580328noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23708015.post-76823343936171958092008-05-27T19:21:00.000-07:002008-05-27T19:21:00.000-07:00God desires that all men assume their responsibili...God desires that all men assume their responsibility to obey him but only saves those he elects for regeneration. <BR/><BR/>In all respect to you Paul, it seems that you are saying that man's depravity does not render him incapable of liability toward God. He is marred but not defaced.<BR/>He is not totally depraved.WatchingHISstoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10339668990091164802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23708015.post-58210685008640350142008-05-27T18:47:00.000-07:002008-05-27T18:47:00.000-07:00watchinghisstory, God has put responsibility on al...watchinghisstory, God has put responsibility on all the human race, in that He commands man to repent and believe, which they can't do except by being regenerated. Man's liability to sin does not preclude him from his<BR/>responsibility to obey God. <BR/> Paul W. Foltz DDAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23708015.post-45293822562288554762008-05-26T12:24:00.000-07:002008-05-26T12:24:00.000-07:00As I understand it responsibility issues from rege...As I understand it responsibility issues from regeneration.<BR/><BR/>John Murray in "Regeneration" (Banner of Truth 1976) says that "to argue that we should not repent and believe until we are generated is to introduce confusion in the relation that regeneration sustains to our responsibility."<BR/><BR/>Then he turns around and says: "the unknown purposes of God are not the rule of our conduct nor the grounds upon which we act, so the inscrutable operations of God are not the rule and ground of our actions, but his revealed will.<BR/><BR/>Now it seems to me he has introduced confusion by insisting that there are possibly conflicting difference between what God has proposed and what he has revealed. What is unknown and inscrutable to us are somehow different than what is revealed.<BR/>There seems to be manipulation that allows for all sinners to repent and believe. He says: "we never know that we are regenerated until we repent and believe." In my opinion this does a disservice to so many. The Father in electing, the Holy Spirit in regenerating and the sincere sinner in a false conversion. Perhaps the very reason we have so many unconverted Church members.<BR/><BR/>It disallows limited attonement yet claiming to hold to limited atonement.<BR/><BR/>All this would be expected of an Arminian appeal but for a Calvinist (5 pointer) to cling to a well-meant offer or free offer in evangelism is confusing.WatchingHISstoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10339668990091164802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23708015.post-48561230518447431342008-05-26T10:56:00.000-07:002008-05-26T10:56:00.000-07:00dear watchinghisstory,I don't know who Amyrant is....dear watchinghisstory,<BR/>I don't know who Amyrant is. I never have read Him, or heard of him, what I know and believe, I got on my Knees, asking the Holy Spirit to open the Bible.<BR/>I HAVE ALSO MADE IT A PRACTICE, NEVER TO READ ANYTHING BY JOHN CALVIN.<BR/><BR/>What I BELIEVE, I HAVE GOTTEN FIRSTHAND.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23708015.post-79291726498941348482008-05-26T07:58:00.000-07:002008-05-26T07:58:00.000-07:00There's\ no such thing as a hyper-calvinist. Eithe...There's\ no such thing as a hyper-calvinist. Either You are a Calvinist or are not.<BR/><BR/>Calvinsts accept human responsibility.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23708015.post-86607877429956649552008-05-26T07:02:00.000-07:002008-05-26T07:02:00.000-07:00Anonymous I want to avoid having Moise Amyrant int...Anonymous <BR/><BR/>I want to avoid having Moise Amyrant interpret Dort for me.<BR/>I also want to avoid hypo-Calvinism and cling to the sovereignty of God in election and avoid a universal Arminian gospel appeal.<BR/><BR/>I believe that a great preacher like McArthur is guilty of this.<BR/><BR/>And yes, I want to avoid hyper-Calvinism. I just want to be a Calvinist!WatchingHISstoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10339668990091164802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23708015.post-9827088090514904792008-05-26T05:53:00.000-07:002008-05-26T05:53:00.000-07:00watching his story. it is consistent,in that free ...watching his story. it is consistent,in that free grace relates to the experience of conversion, not to regeneration, or the awakening of the sinner.<BR/> Paul W. Foltz DDAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23708015.post-79853253227282484132008-05-25T11:44:00.000-07:002008-05-25T11:44:00.000-07:00Dear Greg, I thank you for your kind words. ...Dear Greg, I thank you for your kind words.<BR/> Paul W. Foltz DD<BR/> ps. check out my blog on Doctrine od Regeneration-34posts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23708015.post-45318189171388180152008-03-30T14:05:00.000-07:002008-03-30T14:05:00.000-07:00Paul,Hello my good brother :-)I have been on a blo...Paul,<BR/><BR/>Hello my good brother :-)<BR/><BR/>I have been on a bloging sabbatical for the month of March... sometimes I just need to take some time off... anyway, it is good to have your comments. <BR/><BR/>I like your analogy “Regeneration is compared to conception. Conversion to the live birth.”<BR/><BR/>Grace Always,Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09315967884033580328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23708015.post-54679855058711495262008-03-27T18:19:00.000-07:002008-03-27T18:19:00.000-07:00PaulYour comment is not consistent with your post ...Paul<BR/><BR/>Your comment is not consistent with your post about what free Grace is. <BR/><BR/>Everybody has a different spin on the moment of regeneration.<BR/>There is death then regeneration from the good (and generous) pleasure of the Father in unconditional election. only after regeneration does anything make sense. Only Arminians have any explanation about pre-conversion grace.WatchingHISstoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10339668990091164802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23708015.post-40791157451381877322008-03-27T16:35:00.000-07:002008-03-27T16:35:00.000-07:00In Regeneration, the Holy Spirit implants the grac...In Regeneration, the Holy Spirit implants the graces of repentance and faith, which lead to the initial conversion experience.<BR/>The elect sinner is passive in Regeneration, but active in Conversion.<BR/>Regeneration is compared to conception. Conversion to the live birth.<BR/> Paul W. FoltzDr. Paul W. Foltzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04706519588133288290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23708015.post-86475865092219943742008-03-16T12:40:00.000-07:002008-03-16T12:40:00.000-07:00Please, someone help me here. This clip is about K...Please, someone help me here. This clip is about Kirk Cameron and John MacArthur. Are they Arminian or Calvinist (maybe reformed Arminian)?<BR/>Watch it and give me your opinion.<BR/><BR/>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgtrKojXk5kWatchingHISstoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10339668990091164802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23708015.post-30143436963699952722008-03-11T07:52:00.000-07:002008-03-11T07:52:00.000-07:00oops! mean to write Sinner comes to Christ in des...oops! mean to write Sinner comes to Christ in desperation...not ChristianWatchingHISstoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10339668990091164802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23708015.post-38874912622006327712008-03-10T19:10:00.000-07:002008-03-10T19:10:00.000-07:00Charles,Yes I think the Bible is clear that regene...Charles,<BR/><BR/>Yes I think the Bible is clear that regeneration always precedes faith and repentance... <BR/><BR/>I do not know what MacArthur was attempting to communicate… I do know that he is one of the most respected and solid Calvinist of this generation… and knowing that; I would give MacArthur the benefit of the doubt that I was not understanding correctly what it was that he was meaning to communicate.<BR/><BR/>But, with that said… even our greatest Heroes of the Christian faith make mistakes… That’s why the Word of God is our only standard by which all doctrine is measured. And I am confident that MacArthur would say Amen to that statement.<BR/><BR/>Grace Always,Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09315967884033580328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23708015.post-60886332391613039512008-03-06T18:21:00.000-08:002008-03-06T18:21:00.000-08:00GregDo you agree that regeneration preceeds faith ...Greg<BR/><BR/>Do you agree that regeneration preceeds faith and repentance? It does not work simultaneously with regeneration?<BR/><BR/>John MacArthur preached today that cross bearing was a condition to salvation. The Christian comes to Christ in desperation. I couldn't believe what I was hearing.<BR/><BR/>At the very end less than two minutes to go he clarrified that faith and regeneration were not to be viewed chronologically. They work together. What happened to our salvation decreed before the foundation of creation? Regeneration is monergistic not syncreistic isn't it?<BR/><BR/>Is MacArthur moderate Calvinist?WatchingHISstoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10339668990091164802noreply@blogger.com